SMCs At A Glance

EEBTTF said:
My DS Commissioned last Friday from The Citadel. The number I remember was 147. He commissioned into the USMC and there were 17 total in his group
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Appears Citadel’s numbers may also include summer commissions along with 7 or 8 non-cadet mecp and navy sta-21 students. Actual corps commission rate appears to be lower than 30%.
https://www.citadel.edu/institutional-research/wp-content/uploads/sites/75/fall_23_profile.pdf

Norwich graduated last weekend and VMI’s is coming up, so we can add those as well. Any updates on A&M, VT, or UNG?
 
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EEBTTF said:
My DS Commissioned last Friday from The Citadel. The number I remember was 147. He commissioned into the USMC and there were 17 total in his group
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Interesting. The press release listed 21 Marine officers commissioned, and there is a list of names in the release.
 
A great thread going here. My DS will be a senior at The Citadel and a 4 year Army ROTC scholarship recipient. When he entered the Citadel was not offering room and board compensation like other SMA but that changed his sophomore year for incoming students not current cadets.
We were also an out of state family, 14 hours away attending the Citadel.
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DS will be a senior next year at VT (AROTC). I have seen other commission-related posts here and they may have more up-to-date info. For 2021, the VT Corps of Cadets commissioned 78% between the Army, Navy (including Marine Option), and Air Force (including Space Force). See here.
The class of 2024 graduates and commissions in two days (5/10). Perhaps VTCC will post/advertise more recent commission numbers soon?
 
NovaDriver said:
DS will be a senior next year at VT (AROTC). I have seen other commission-related posts here and they may have more up-to-date info. For 2021, the VT Corps of Cadets commissioned 78% between the Army, Navy (including Marine Option), and Air Force (including Space Force). See here.
The class of 2024 graduates and commissions in two days (5/10). Perhaps VTCC will post/advertise more recent commission numbers soon?
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I think those numbers are dated too. DS will be incoming freshman & I could've sworn during open house, they said the were about 1400 strong with a 70+ commissioning rate. In letters we've received, they have a record incoming class size.
 
I can tell you that each SMC is keenly aware of these numbers and it is highly competitive! In a recent meeting with the AROTC ROO at The Citadel, he was lamenting the fact that TAMU had recently offered some great incentives to ROTC scholarship winners and is poised to become the largest AROTC unit in the country. I believe The Citadel had recently had the distinction, and they are working hard to enroll scholarship winners for this fall, but it's a bit more challenging for them because The Citadel reduced incentives for 3-year AD scholarship winners and they have lost some kids to other schools.

Being an ROO at one of the SMC must be kind of like being a top salesman at the largest auto dealer in a major city. Sure, you are good at what you do, but there's a constant pressure to "meet your numbers," and no matter how well you produced last year, the higher ups are always more concerned about what you've done for them lately.
 
pa-outdoorsman said:
I can tell you that each SMC is keenly aware of these numbers and it is highly competitive! In a recent meeting with the AROTC ROO at The Citadel, he was lamenting the fact that TAMU had recently offered some great incentives to ROTC scholarship winners and is poised to become the largest AROTC unit in the country. I believe The Citadel had recently had the distinction, and they are working hard to enroll scholarship winners for this fall, but it's a bit more challenging for them because The Citadel reduced incentives for 3-year AD scholarship winners and they have lost some kids to other schools.
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Good points. Some of the services are offering fewer commissions, Air Force for example.
The largest Army ROTC program in the country is currently VMI, and it has been for quite some time, but I’ve heard A&M is expanding its Corps to 3,000 which will probably make it the largest.
Wildflower222 said:
My son just commissioned Norwich University on
April 27, 2024. Will be CST cadre July-Aug with BOLC in Sept. Norwich commissioning numbers:
Army -85
Air Force/Space Force- 12
Navy - 8
Marines - 5
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Do you know how many cadets graduated?
 
Tac-p21 said:
Good points. Some of the services are offering fewer commissions, Air Force for example.
The largest Army ROTC program in the country is currently VMI, and it has been for quite some time, but I’ve heard A&M is expanding its Corps to 3,000 which will probably make it the largest.

Do you know how many cadets graduated?
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Gotcha. Maybe The Citadel was #2 and soon to be #3. There seems to be back and forth on this topic and those who debate. I'm certainly not enough of an insider to know (or worry much about it) but it is clear to me that the rivalry among SMCs is real and each program is doing its best to gain/maintain numbers within whatever circumstances they are presented.
 
pa-outdoorsman said:
Gotcha. Maybe The Citadel was #2 and soon to be #3. There seems to be back and forth on this topic and those who debate. I'm certainly not enough of an insider to know (or worry much about it) but it is clear to me that the rivalry among SMCs is real and each program is doing its best to gain/maintain numbers within whatever circumstances they are presented.
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Actually, and again, not that it matters a ton, I think what I was told is that The Citadel had pulled ahead of VMI the last couple years because they started offering super incentives to 3-year scholarship winners to get them enrolled. But now VMI and other schools are matching or beating those offers, so the pendulum is swinging.

Like I said, I am sure the competition/rivalry (mostly good natured, I'm sure) never ends.
 
Tac-p21 said:
Good points. Some of the services are offering fewer commissions, Air Force for example.
The largest Army ROTC program in the country is currently VMI, and it has been for quite some time, but I’ve heard A&M is expanding its Corps to 3,000 which will probably make it the largest.

Do you know how many cadets graduated?
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TAMU might have the largest Corps in the country but the commissioning numbers are not as high as you would think. Many Corps cadets are D&C cadets who don't contract and pursue commissions. TAMU offers many Corps only scholarships. Every kid in Texas is trying to get into TAMU but not every kid wants to be in Corps so they entice them with money.
Kids go to TAMU for the Aggie network leveraged with the TAMU Corps network. It's hard to classify TAMU in the same lane with any of the other SMCs due to the size of the whole student body. There may be 3000 in the Corps but the "non-regs" run around 70k. Fish are now allowed to go home on weekends and travel for football way before cadet recognition. TAMU is just a different SMC experience.
 
VMI has break downs by semester and over the academic year.

Anticipated numbers for next week are 173 commissioned officers (106 Army, 32 Navy, 23 Marines, 12 Air Force)

In Academic Year 23- 24 it is 210 total commissions
Army 137
Navy 34
Air Force 13
Marine 26
 
Here are the numbers from The Citadel this year. Total Commissions = 150
Army - 102
Air Force - 8
Navy - 18
Space Force - 1
Marines - 21 (** Some of the 21 are MECEPS. I think I remember 15 non MECEPS, but I could be off)

I think the number graduation (Corps of Cadets - not including day students) was around 487. So total commissioning rate if you take out the MECEPS is 34%.

This is my math from reading the program and taking numbers from the commencement press release.
 
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