Navy promotion idea

nuensis said:
Yeah, that's been my point, there's nothing stopping the Navy from promoting everyone on first day of the fiscal year other than not paying a chunk of officers at the next paygrade. It's definitely not a seniority thing, I don't think we've cared about date of rank determining seniority for a while now.
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Navy needs to make sure that (at the control grades) inventory does not exceed authorized strength as that is a hard legal limit.
Beyond that there is also a fiscal impact.
 
I joke with my O-3 (pilot) about how slow they are to promote considering Harry Bailey made O-5 something like 4 years out of OCS.

Of course, there was a war on...
 
O-2 to O-3 timetable used to fluctuate a lot in the USMC.

I went from USNA ('94) to TBS almost immediately (less than 2 weeks basket leave). My SPC was still a 1stLt ('89 VMI graduate) who didn't pin on Capt until late summer of '94.

Fast forward 4 years, my class pinned on Capt at exactly the 4 year mark ('98). Also very much peacetime pre-GWOT, the civilian job market was hot (particularly the telecom sector).
 
It seems like the new officers might have a smoother sail ahead in terms of career progression.
I remember how tough it was to get promoted back in the day. It felt like a long haul just waiting and working hard for that recognition and step up.
 
Giovanny Moore said:
It seems like the new officers might have a smoother sail ahead in terms of career progression.
I remember how tough it was to get promoted back in the day. It felt like a long haul just waiting and working hard for that recognition and step up.
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I'm confused. When in the last 60 or so years, has it been tough to get promoted from Ensign to Ltjg in the US Navy?

It's been automatic for many decades so I really don't understand what you're referring to.
 
OldRetSWO said:
I'm confused. When in the last 60 or so years, has it been tough to get promoted from Ensign to Ltjg in the US Navy?

It's been automatic for many decades so I really don't understand what you're referring to.
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My peers and I worked hard to get a promotion. But in the end, the majority just decided to choose a different pathway. Many of my friends, including me, are now in the business.
 
Giovanny Moore said:
My peers and I worked hard to get a promotion. But in the end, the majority just decided to choose a different pathway. Many of my friends, including me, are now in the business.
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So you and your USAFA buddies had to work hard to get to O2 and O3? Congratulations on making it!
 
nuensis said:
I'm more a fan of just adding incentive pay rather than accelerated promotions.

Some are just not ready at 6-7 years for the responsibility of O-4. That's a minesweeper CO, detachment OIC, small shore station OIC, XO of a cruiser, XO of an SSN, etc. Pushing people into those positions when they are not ready and expecting them to just "rise to the challenge" is not a recipe for success. Even an extra couple of years means one additional tour and can make a big difference.
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While I would love to see my son get promoted earlier, I tend to agree with you.
 
ncbill said:
I joke with my O-3 (pilot) about how slow they are to promote considering Harry Bailey made O-5 something like 4 years out of OCS.

Of course, there was a war on...
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Yes, but it was a wonderful life back then.
 
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