Hello, AMI!

[GrilledCheese94]

Well, here we are.

AMI request for records regarding an instance of "pitcher's elbow" 5 years ago where the doctors orders were "Listen to your father. Don't throw the curve ball any more." Medical advice followed; no other treatment or follow up required. Having to sit out the rest of the season cheering on his team from the bench reinforced the message the doctor was sending!

AMI request for pharmacy records is a bit more complex. Seasonal allergies treated by OTC meds as needed. My union health plan provides these OTC meds at no cost if we get them "prescribed" and use mail order as opposed to full retail out-of-pocket. Who among us wouldn't use that benefit ($0.00 for 90-day supply mail order versus $60.00 for a 90-day supply retail)?

We're concerned that one prescription he has but never uses could be troublesome. We've thrown away more of this medication that was filled, never used, and was now expired. How do you prove no use? He said, she said? This seems like it's something that may be impossible to prove.

Anyone have similar circumstances? We know waivers are specific to each program since it looks like that's the path we're on.

DMs are open if anyone wants to offer advice offline.

 

[Impulsive]

I am not a Doc, nor associated with any of the WA's, but just a suggestion.....if DoDMERB or the WA for any of the ascension sources is asking for medical and pharmacy records, provide them along with any explanation you feel appropriate. JMPO but I do not think DoDMERB or a WA would be asking for this info if it wasn't in your son's medical file or records. Likely the doc who examined your son for the elbow issue made a diagnosis that DoDMERB needs clarification on. If it turns out as you have indicated, he should have no problem being fully qualified by DoDMERB BEFORE having to go through the waiver process.

And I would hope that if he is not a recruited athlete that the "pitchers elbow" would not be an issue, nor the OTC meds as long as they did not contain any additives that the services prohibit.

Good Luck

 

[BubbaCool12]

Looks like they're finally starting to reach out about these waivers... hopefully many with good news.

 

[GrilledCheese94]

I am not a Doc, nor associated with any of the WA's, but just a suggestion.....if DoDMERB or the WA for any of the ascension sources is asking for medical and pharmacy records, provide them along with any explanation you feel appropriate. JMPO but I do not think DoDMERB or a WA would be asking for this info if it wasn't in your son's medical file or records. Likely the doc who examined your son for the elbow issue made a diagnosis that DoDMERB needs clarification on. If it turns out as you have indicated, he should have no problem being fully qualified by DoDMERB BEFORE having to go through the waiver process.

And I would hope that if he is not a recruited athlete that the "pitchers elbow" would not be an issue, nor the OTC meds as long as they did not contain any additives that the services prohibit.

Good Luck

Not a baseball player anymore. COVID-19 crushed high school athletics here for nearly 2 years and he lost ground to players who were able to afford private coaching to stay relevant and competitive.

He's pivoted to outdoor track and cross country, which we hope will bolster his case. He hasn't had any issues running 8 miles in the heat and humidity of the east coast summer!

It's hard to trust the process, but we must do so.

 

[GoCubbies]

Well, here we are.

AMI request for records regarding an instance of "pitcher's elbow" 5 years ago where the doctors orders were "Listen to your father. Don't throw the curve ball any more." Medical advice followed; no other treatment or follow up required. Having to sit out the rest of the season cheering on his team from the bench reinforced the message the doctor was sending!

AMI request for pharmacy records is a bit more complex. Seasonal allergies treated by OTC meds as needed. My union health plan provides these OTC meds at no cost if we get them "prescribed" and use mail order as opposed to full retail out-of-pocket. Who among us wouldn't use that benefit ($0.00 for 90-day supply mail order versus $60.00 for a 90-day supply retail)?

We're concerned that one prescription he has but never uses could be troublesome. We've thrown away more of this medication that was filled, never used, and was now expired. How do you prove no use? He said, she said? This seems like it's something that may be impossible to prove.

Anyone have similar circumstances? We know waivers are specific to each program since it looks like that's the path we're on.

DMs are open if anyone wants to offer advice offline.

Are you still in the DoDMERB process as in you haven’t gotten the official Q/DQ yet at the DoDMERB level?

 

[GrilledCheese94]

Are you still in the DoDMERB process as in you haven’t gotten the official Q/DQ yet at the DoDMERB level?

Correct. First request for AMI, 2 separate topics Pitchers elbow was a 1 and done visit to the doctor resolution (stop trying to throw a breaking ball).

 

[GoCubbies]

AMI request for records regarding an instance of "pitcher's elbow" 5 years ago where the doctors orders were "Listen to your father. Don't throw the curve ball any more." Medical advice followed; no other treatment or follow up required. Having to sit out the rest of the season cheering on his team from the bench reinforced the message the doctor was sending!

AMI request for pharmacy records is a bit more complex. Seasonal allergies treated by OTC meds as needed. My union health plan provides these OTC meds at no cost if we get them "prescribed" and use mail order as opposed to full retail out-of-pocket. Who among us wouldn't use that benefit ($0.00 for 90-day supply mail order versus $60.00 for a 90-day supply retail)?

We're concerned that one prescription he has but never uses could be troublesome. We've thrown away more of this medication that was filled, never used, and was now expired. How do you prove no use? He said, she said? This seems like it's something that may be impossible to prove.

Anyone have similar circumstances? We know waivers are specific to each program since it looks like that's the path we're on.

DMs are open if anyone wants to offer advice offline.

If you submitted notes from a doctor’s visit that shows your son has seasonal allergies, then there should be no problem. The pharmacy records may show meds that are typically used for asthma but some of those are also used for seasonal allergies.

As for the elbow, that shouldn’t be a DQ either. If your DS has participate in other sports in the past 5 years and no issues with the elbow, then it should be good to go. Worse case is you are asked to get a note from your son’s doctor to clear him for full and unrestricted activities. But it was 5 years ago, and the fact he’s playing sports again (my assumption), that’s proof he’s good to go.

 

[GrilledCheese94]

If you submitted notes from a doctor’s visit that shows your son has seasonal allergies, then there should be no problem. The pharmacy records may show meds that are typically used for asthma but some of those are also used for seasonal allergies.

As for the elbow, that shouldn’t be a DQ either. If your DS has participate in other sports in the past 5 years and no issues with the elbow, then it should be good to go. Worse case is you are asked to get a note from your son’s doctor to clear him for full and unrestricted activities. But it was 5 years ago, and the fact he’s playing sports again (my assumption), that’s proof he’s good to go.

Thanks for the info you’ve provided here and on other threads; you have a very down-to-Earth quality and realism in your well thought out answers.

My son has pivoted to outdoor track and cross country in his post-baseball athletic life. He’s also a volunteer firefighter in the process of completing his Firefighter 1 certification and wears an SCBA on a regular basis. Red Cross certified lifeguard the past 2 summers. Cuts the grass weekly with no issues.

Thanks again for keeping a lot of us grounded, it’s much appreciated. My wife is freaking out & I have to keep reminding her that I needed a commissioning waiver a month before graduation for allergies the Navy medicine knew about for all 4 of my enlisted years and my entire time at Canoe U. I got the waiver & commissioned USMC ground.

The process often works if you just patiently go with the flow.