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My DD is likely going to have a weak grade - AP Calculus class. It may be a C or D. Is there any chance she could have her appointment pulled?
 
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TX2028 said:
My DD is likely going to have a weak grade - AP Calculus class. It may be a C or D. Is there any chance she could have her appointment pulled?
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I don't have that answer but if I was to guess I'd say probably not. One thing I do know however is I have West Point appointee sitting directly in front of me working on at least two assignments. My Biotech stuff and another subject. She told me she wants to finish strong and not take a chance on losing her appointment.

I wish I could take a pic to prove this but another high flyer, going to UVA, has her head on her arms which are on the desk. She's breathing but not concerned apparently about grades beyond the 7th semester. She owes me some work and probably other teachers as well.

Both are awesome girls with wide open futures. One has thrown in the towel and the other is marching along smartly.
 
SAs look at the first six (6) semesters of High School. Only occasionally do they concern themselves with 12th grade scores, which is usually to see if there is a pattern of improvement from 11th to 12th grade (If those first 6 semesters gave them any pause to begin with).

After an offer of appointment however, she is probably good to go. As a parent, I would caution her that a "C" had better be the outcome, rather than a "D".

Things aren't going to be any easier at the academy, that's for sure.
 
THParent said:
SAs look at the first six (6) semesters of High School. Only occasionally do they concern themselves with 12th grade scores, which is usually to see if there is a pattern of improvement from 11th to 12th grade (If those first 6 semesters gave them any pause to begin with).

After an offer of appointment however, she is probably good to go. As a parent, I would caution her that a "C" had better be the outcome, rather than a "D".

Things aren't going to be any easier at the academy, that's for sure.
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Will not be easier, but will be easier to focus. Senior-itis is a real thing this time of year, and I am trying to choose my battles.

DS worked hard yesterday on a final presentation for his Economics class, but overall he is not exactly burning the midnight oil with academics these days. Two weeks left in senior year, and in his mind he's already gone. His grades for the final quarter will be good, not great.

Honestly, I can't believe there is anything more happening in high school that is critical to his future, though I would not say that to his face...
 
Senioritis is now in the pandemic stage. A percentage of my students can choose among the best universities in the country. USMA, UVA, Georgetown, and George Washington to name a few they chose. The class I'm with now has zero students going to college. At least after graduation. I'm trying to get them ready for a certification exam that will put them in a good position to get a job. They low key ignored me which earned them a talking to. I then went over the assignment which is focused on the certification test. Again, side bar convos and whatnot.

A wise instructor told me decades ago, "Reach those you can."
 
lol I’m trying to convince my Firstie that they matter!!

JK. Sorta. He is still straight A’s. But the effort has for sure dropped off.
 
TX2028 said:
My DD is likely going to have a weak grade - AP Calculus class. It may be a C or D. Is there any chance she could have her appointment pulled?
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I've never heard of it happening for grades, but don't tempt fate and succumb to senioritis...Finish strong and its a non issue.
(Conduct is another issue ...Seniors often do stupid things the last month of school.. don't be one of them).
 
Reading this thread put me at ease…grades are great but that AP Physics C grade is looking a little too similar to the name of the course…
 
Devil Doc said:
Senioritis is now in the pandemic stage. A percentage of my students can choose among the best universities in the country. USMA, UVA, Georgetown, and George Washington to name a few they chose. The class I'm with now has zero students going to college. At least after graduation. I'm trying to get them ready for a certification exam that will put them in a good position to get a job. They low key ignored me which earned them a talking to. I then went over the assignment which is focused on the certification test. Again, side bar convos and whatnot.

A wise instructor told me decades ago, "Reach those you can."
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Why are they even in your class then if there is no continuation at the college for them after they are done with HS?
 
You obviously want to get the best grades you can to avoid any problems.


That being said - calculus is an important subject. I would want to leave the class understanding the material. That knowledge will make stem classes less of a struggle at USNA.
 
mike1979 said:
Why are they even in your class then if there is no continuation at the college for them after they are done with HS?
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Many are recent immigrants, they live on the wrong side of the highway, their parents work two jobs and many of them have to work, they live in a two bedroom apartment with six others including Abuela, and by the way, lack the sophistication and grades to get in. I'm a big proponent of the community college which is a good place to start anew.

Not everybody needs to go to college. This country has a shortage of trades and crafts workers. In fact, there's a Gen Z trend leaning toward not being saddled with a debt burden and a useless degree. Learning a trade is a faster route to steady pay with benefits.

Why are they in my class? I have a waiting list for all my classes for next year. I had a waiting list last year to get in my current classes. Not tooten my own horn but, I'm a good teacher, treat my students like I wanted my own to be treated, and provide a safe and welcoming classroom environment.
 
Devil Doc said:
Many are recent immigrants, they live on the wrong side of the highway, their parents work two jobs and many of them have to work, they live in a two bedroom apartment with six others including Abuela, and by the way, lack the sophistication and grades to get in. I'm a big proponent of the community college which is a good place to start anew.

Not everybody needs to go to college. This country has a shortage of trades and crafts workers. In fact, there's a Gen Z trend leaning toward not being saddled with a debt burden and a useless degree. Learning a trade is a faster route to steady pay with benefits.

Why are they in my class? I have a waiting list for all my classes for next year. I had a waiting list last year to get in my current classes. Not tooten my own horn but, I'm a good teacher, treat my students like I wanted my own to be treated, and provide a safe and welcoming classroom environment.
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First paragraph hits home. My parents were immigrants, we slept on the cold carpet for months until my parents could afford a mattress. Both parents worked two jobs, my younger sibling babysat and I was just old enough to work at a carwash on the weekends. I was determined to do well, graduated high school with honors (my parents didnt even know what that meant 🤦🏻‍♀️) and received a full ride scholarship. It is hard when you don’t have the support from home but I still remember my ESL teacher’s name, how much she helped me and cheered for me. Teachers have the ability to change a whole generation ❤️
 
THParent said:
SAs look at the first six (6) semesters of High School. Only occasionally do they concern themselves with 12th grade scores, which is usually to see if there is a pattern of improvement from 11th to 12th grade (If those first 6 semesters gave them any pause to begin with).

After an offer of appointment however, she is probably good to go. As a parent, I would caution her that a "C" had better be the outcome, rather than a "D".

Things aren't going to be any easier at the academy, that's for sure.
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You'd be surprised at how many 4.0 HS rockstars would do the happy dance for a C at the academy.
 
mspeachintexas said:
First paragraph hits home. My parents were immigrants, we slept on the cold carpet for months until my parents could afford a mattress. Both parents worked two jobs, my younger sibling babysat and I was just old enough to work at a carwash on the weekends. I was determined to do well, graduated high school with honors (my parents didnt even know what that meant 🤦🏻‍♀️) and received a full ride scholarship. It is hard when you don’t have the support from home but I still remember my ESL teacher’s name, how much she helped me and cheered for me. Teachers have the ability to change a whole generation ❤️
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Congrats on beating the odds. I salute you for your hard work. I've had a student for two years who took both of my subjects. She came here when she was two. Mom is a single mother who kept her two eldest out of gangs and other trouble and they are both college graduates now. When I wrote my student's college recommendation letter I added that story. The story which includes the mom who worked two and sometimes three jobs and raised good and productive kids. The mother now drives a Mercedes SUV (I've seen it) and makes well into six figures as a construction company project manager.

Her daughter, my student, will start at George Washington University this fall.
 
TX2028 said:
My DD is likely going to have a weak grade - AP Calculus class. It may be a C or D. Is there any chance she could have her appointment pulled?
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Is she going to take this AP exam ? Two years ago DS took analysis (a math course that covers calculus) and it was really hard. Some classmates got C for the course but managed to score 5 at the AP Calculus BC exam.
 
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